Hi, Will this also work with Exchange 2003? Or do you know of any other tool that can do this on Exchange 2003? Regards Frederik Larsen
Hello, okay, thats a shame. My setup is that i have an Exchange 2003 Cluster, that is setup with one smtp iis server as smart host. The smart host sends mails out over the internet. But i have 2 ISP’s and i would like to make it redundant, so we can always mail out, nomather if one of the ISP’s is down. Any good ideas?
Hello Frederik, This tool only works with 2007 (it uses powershell commands in the background)… I have not seen any tools that can do this on 2003… sorry
are these 2 ISP’s connected to the same firewall ? or are the gateways distributed/separated from each other ? There may be a couple of ways to do this, but I need more info about your network setup to find a solution. Can you please start a thread in the discussion forum about this ? thanks
it’s possible… I’m using the .Net Webclient class to perform the http connect checks… I don’t know if it uses IE in the background or not – I guess you’ll have to test it If it is using IE proxy settings, and if you don’t want that, you can still do a tcp connect to the webserver on port 80 and you’ll have the same results (the tcp connect is a tcp ping, it does not use IE)
Thanks for getting back to me! I know this progam should be installed on the Hub serrver but was wondering if this program can be installed on the Edge server role?
I don’t have an edge server at hand right now, but I guess the Edge server wouldn’t see the send connectors, would it ? I guess the tool needs to be able to see & modify the send connectors on the hub servers, so I’m afraid it won’t work on edge servers. (It should install fine on an edge server though – you can still use it as some sort of notification tool, because you can launch an application when the connection changes from up to down and vice versa)
Hi, I don’t have any Edge server in any of the site, I am using Barracuda Spam firewall. Site A has MailBox (CCR), Hub and CAS, site B has Standby Mailbox, Hub and CAS. My question is, if I need any third party SMTP relay to make this scenario work? Thanks, Zia
Technically no, but for security reasons, I would use a dedicated SMTP relay in the DMZ What server is accepting the emails ? the HUB&CAS ? Or the Barracuda ? Do you have a Barracuda in both sites ?
Hi, Thanks for very quick response!! What SMTP relay server do you recommend? It is like this: Internet->Barracuda->HUB&CAS Thanks again, Zia
well, there are many smtp relay solutions… I guess it all depends on the budget you have If you don’t have any budget, perhaps you can – use your ISP mail server for outgoing emails, and let your mails arrive on the mailserver of your ISP (and then only allow those ISP servers to deliver email to your mailserver) – use a hardened sendmail/postfix solution With more budget, there are a number of commercial solutions that will work well : – Cisco Ironport – MailMarshal – …
Hi again, Thank you very much for all your help. Using this solution, what happens if all server goes down or internet goes down at site A? All mails will be delivered in standby mailbox in site B? Thanks, Zia
it depends on MX records If both sides have a smtp relay, and the email domain has 2 MX records (one pointing to the server in site A and the other pointing to the server in site B), then mails will be delivered to the server in site B. If the mailbox server in site B is configured to take over when the mailbox server in site A goes down (using some sort of clustering, then mails will be delivered to the mailboxes on the server in site B If internet goes down in site A (and site B has internet + smtp server + proper MX records), then mails will be delivered to site B, and then transferred to the mailbox server in site A.
Hi thanks again. Is there any way to automate the standby mailbox in site B to takeover when site A goes down? Thanks, Zia
As far as I know, there is no way to automate the failover or failback between site A and site B (SCR) It’s a manual process (which, imho, you should practice on a regular basis, as it can be quite complex)
Hi Peter, So it means we must use CCR, one CCR node at site A and another CCR node at site B? Thanks, Zia
for the mailbox servers that would be an option if they are running 2008 server (version that supports clustering across different subnets), and if bandwidth allows for the CCR sync If you already have set up the servers, you’ll have to break them down again, to install them in a CCR cluster I think If mailbox server in site A goes down, mailbox server in site B takes over If HUB/CAS in site A goes down, you need to redirect clients to the HUB/CAS in site B. So you may want to use a virtual fqdn for the CAS servers… so if cas in site A goes down, you change the IP address behind the virtual fqdn, point it to CAS in site B, and everybody will be able to connect again
Hi Peter, Thanks a lot for your responses. Let me explain you what I want to accomplish, I am sure you can help me to achieve that. 1. I don’t want to miss any messages in the period when everything was down in Site A. 2. I want to give access to the users for the messages when the servers were down, maybe using web pop or imap. 3. I am OK if I have to have a server at some other location. This is what our management want! Please advise if you have some ideas. Thanks, Zia
Hi, I don’t consider myself an Exchange expert, so I would only be able to give you my personal view Perhaps you should post this question in an Exchange newsgroup – you’ll get more accurate results & alternatives so you can decide what to do I guess a lot depends on the amount of downtime you can afford. I don’t see an issue where you could loose a lot of emails when everything was down in Site A. Messages would be queued on the various hosts (remote smtp servers would queue messages, outlook clients would queue messages, etc) If you want to give access to the users when the servers are down in site A, you need a hub/cas & Mailbox server in site B, which is replicated with server A. Then when site A goes down, clients would need to be reconnected to site B. You could set up OWA using a different hostname on site B, so they can use the second OWA URL to access their mailbox in site B. Should work without intervention Again, this is my personal view..